What do software leaders within telcos think about the tremendous rate of change and technological innovation taking place? How do they view topics like SaaS, GenAI, or edge computing? How do they consider the vendor landscape? What principles are most important in the era of cloud and continous delivery? In this thoughtful episode, Robert and John talk with Rob Bennett, SVP of Software Engineering at Echostar - the new name for the combined Dish Wireless and Echostar assets that were re-merged in early 2024.