In this episode of 'The 5G Guys' podcast, hosts Dan McVaugh and Wayne Smith discuss the rapidly changing landscape of telecommunications infrastructure and 5G technology with guest Hugh Odom, the founder of Vertical Consultants. The discussion plunges into the transformation of carrier models for property owners, the influence of municipalities and private networks, and the necessity of regulation. Important subjects touched upon include the carriers versus tower companies' different business models, the introduction of small cells in the public right of way, and the realization of telecommunication services as the fourth utility. In the backdrop, Hugh Odom offers educated insights on the future of how business gets done between cellular carriers and tower companies and the building and landowners they do business with to procure leases for building their infrastructure.  Hugh shares his perspective on the need to shift the cell site leasing model to be more considerate of the needs and rights of the property owners who are leasing to the cellular carriers.